Similar to BODNARIU: Judge in Norway Rules Against “Leading Questions”

A fascinating article was just published in the Norwegian press. A woman had her 4 kids confiscated and then sentenced to jail for “violence” against the children. What was the offense? Giving the children pats on their bottom, grabbing them by the arm and embracing their body and neck to arouse their attention.

As a result the kids were taken and the mother sentenced to jail time.

Fast forward to present. The criminal case was appealed and the conviction was reversed due to lack of evidence against the mother!

HOW WAS THIS MOTHER CONVICTED AND SENT TO PRISON????

This is a key question because the same method was used against the Bodnariu family!

It turns out that the appeals judge noticed serious issues with how the children were interviewed! The new judge realized that the answers the kids were giving under pressure were contradictory and the children were not sure about what they experienced.

WHY WERE THE CHILDREN’S ANSWERS CONTRADICTORY AND UNCLEAR?

Because psychologists used leading questions when they interviewed them. Leading questions prompt or encourage the desired answer.  You can make a child say almost anything using leading questions. And the appeals court recognized this issue.

Delight in Truth is bringing this to light because we know that the Bodnariu children were bombarded with leading questions. One of the girls said the following during an interview:

“I am tired, I do not know what else to make up”

This is the kind of forced testimony that Barnevernet uses to remove children from good and loving homes. I am glad to see that at least some elements of the system recognize the problem. This recognition may have to do with the international protests against the system and with serious cases of abuse and even death within the system.

If the Bodnariu children are not returned home and Barnevernet not reformed, April 16th, 2016 the international D-Day of world-wide protest will be just the beginning of tremendous exposure and shame for Norway.

Norwegian government, is this how you want your country to be seen by the whole world?

Getting Our Message Inside Norway

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Delight in Truth is asked almost every day if our discussion about Barnevernet is penetrating into Norway.

These are the number of visitors to this site for the past 2 months and their country of origin.

The vast majority of the hits come from Facebook and Twitter, but many visitors arrive from internet search engines. The most common search terms are: delight in truth, Bodnariu case, Ruth Bodnariu, barnevernet, barnevernet abuses, and barnevernet Norway.

I would like to thank our audience for sharing these articles with friends, particularly friends from Norway.

A Response to Knut Nygaard: Giving up Children is Not Normal

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If you have followed the Bodnariu drama closely, chances are you came across Barnevernet employee Mr. Knut Nygaard’s comments somewhere in social media, blogs, or international newspaper articles. He is one of the chief defenders of the Norwegian CPS and their methods including the so-called “attachment theory.”

Knut has been very active on Delight in Truth in past few weeks and has given us insight into how Barnevernet thinks and operates. Many of his comments have confirmed our suspicions that trivial matters trigger CPS investigations with acute interventions of confiscation in some cases.

I want to thank him for opening up to us about his background (see comment here).

Barnevernet left an imprint on his life early on.  Knut was adopted at a very young age into a Christian home when his biological parents willingly gave him up because they felt it would be better for his future. He knows about his 5 biological siblings, his parents, and their contact information, but he has not felt the desire to contact them even though he received the message that they miss him.

Dear Knut, it is not normal for a family to give up an infant. Reading your story I cannot help but see that you trivialize this as a transaction inside Barnevernet. An exchange of sorts.

I have four children and have been blessed by God with a wonderful career in medicine, but even I if had no career, and no resources I would never give up my children. I would instead work 24 hours a day to provide for them and be a father to them.

As a professing Christian, you should know the remote possibility that a mother would give up her baby.  Here is what the Word of God says: “Can a mother forget her nursing child? Can she feel no love for the child she has borne? But even if that were possible, I would not forget you!”

The possibility that a mother would just give up or forget her baby is extremely remote. Unless one lives in Norway where Barnevernet has brainwashed the good citizens of this country that this sort of thing can be normalized. 

Dear Knut, it is not normal to be indifferent to the person who has brought you into this world.

It is not normal for Norway to facilitate confiscation and adoption of children in cases where there is no evidence of abuse or addiction. More than that, it is criminal to prevent biological parents from seeing their children and getting them back, especially when the children were removed because of trivial matters like in the Bodnariu case. How much worse is it when the Bodnarius popped up on the CPS radar because they were “too Christian?”

I am glad you had a “normal” life in a Christian home, but have you considered that perhaps you do not remember the trauma you went through when you were forced to exchange families?

Have you considered that perhaps your biological parents and siblings have regretted their decision to give you up and have perhaps repented of this sin? Maybe they wanted you back afterwards but Barnevernet prevented it due to the “attachment theory.”

I challenge you to think about these issues in light of God’s Word.

I challenge you to see the Bodnariu suffering at the hands of Barnevernet and stop defending CPS in this case. You may have cases of alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual abuse where you can defend CPS. But not in the Bodnariu situation. They love God, they live according to His Word, and they are a model family. If all the families in the world would be like the Bodnariu family, we would have heaven on Earth.

I challenge you to support Bodnariu and talk to your bosses about them.

Tell CPS to return the Bodnariu children immediately. 

Attachment Theory Debunked by Marianne Skanland at Oslo Protest

Prof. Marianne H. Skanland speaking at the anti-Barnevernet protest in Oslo. She argues effectively against the “attachment theory” and “behaviorism” which seem to be foundational in Barnevernet philosophy. Video credit Tancred Productions. Source: YouTube channel here

School Director in Norway Forced to Resign After Supporting Bodnariu on Facebook

George Alexander, a kindergarten director of Romanian descent in Norway resigned his post after Barnevernet put pressure on him. He was a vocal critic in social media of the way Barnevernet handled the confiscation of the Bodnariu, Nan and other Romanian children.

Following comments made on Facebook, he was “followed, supervised and denied,” by his bosses he said.

Barnevernet told him: “You are not allowed to do this… that… (referring to his Facebook posts). You are only allowed to breathe Norwegian air.”

Alexander continues: “I was told I am being sanctioned due to my involvement in the Barnevernet cases”

It turns out that CPS victims were reaching out to him for help, but the State tried to keep him quiet by threatening him.

He announced his resignation today on his public FB timeline: “I chose to be free. To remain myself. I resigned my directorship.”

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Delight in Truth thinks this is a significant development. We knew that the Norwegian CPS was sensitive about its image in social media, but not to this extent. It is now clear that they are desperate about the negative international publicity they have received in the last 3 months following the high-profile Bodnariu case where they impulsively and abusively confiscated 5 children.

These are the same tactics that Alexander observed in communist Romania. Freedom of speech is sacrificed in favor of State ideology, and freedom of expression is now reduced to the right to breath Norwegian air.

We will continue our activism and this will only increase as we approach D-Day, the massive international anti-Barnevernet protest on April 16th, 2016 when over 100,000 people will participate world-wide.

How far has Barnevernet dug itself? Will they reverse course and immediately return the Bodnariu children?

Will they undo the shame that is pouring on Norway at this time?

photo and quotes: G.A. public facebook timeline

			

She Lost her Children Because of Homework

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Steven Bennett brings us another tragedy from the Norwegian CPS. These victims now have the courage and the support to come out and tell their stories! Read and be shocked:

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“Vibeke Vedvik had all four children confiscated after she asked Norway’s CPS, Barnevernet for help. The reason she approached ‘social care’ was because her child was struggling to finish his homework. I’ll say it again – she lost her children because ‘not enough homework was being done’.

It often starts like this in Norway, you ask for help and they take your children. They then draw out the court cases and after so many months of manipulating and coercing the children in care, they tell the parents that the children have now attached themselves to the new ‘foster carers’.

It’s a sick, sick business in need of a remedy.

Vibeke loves her children so very much and is a wonderful mother with the same challenges that all parents have with raising children. She is one of 1000’s of parents who go through this kind of torture every year in Norway, but this is really the worst kind of torture that Vibeke and her children are going through right now, which would be hard for any one of us to imagine.

She has now got her two daughters back but she can only see her two sons four times a year under supervision in different foster homes.

The CPS recently wrote to Vibeke telling her, that if she doesn’t cause the CPS any trouble, she can keep her daughters and see the boys a little more often without supervision/guards. This is a very popular tactic used by Barnevernet. They take all the children first and then after a while they give you one or two of them back. The victim, in this case Vibeke is half relieved and it gives the CPS some form of security, as they’re effectively saying, play ball with us now, do what we say, and we can make life a little easier for you.

This ‘sickness of silence’ in Norway has to be remedied.

Families are being torn apart on a daily basis and so many people still choose to turn a blind eye. Let’s not be like those people, let’s be the solution and let’s pray for Vibeke and her children and the 1000’s of other parents who find themselves in a similar situation, but are too afraid to speak.

As a parent myself, I know exactly what it’s like when it comes to homework – and it can, at times be quite challenging for children in different development stages of their lives. Parenting is not any easy job. Someone once said that parenting is as crazy as circumnavigating the globe without a map….but, oh, what a journey! Sadly, in Norway, that journey is often cut short.”

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Share and rise up in protest against this ideology of child confiscation!

Reposted with  permission from Steven Bennett

US Attorney Reveals New Details in Bodnariu Case

US attorney Peter Costea has access to some of the Bodnariu case documents and wrote in detail about the case.

Delight in Truth was pleaseantly surprised to find how much support the Bodnariu family has in their local community. Despite this support, Barnevernet still confiscated the kids! Read and be shocked!

“The written [court] ruling, however, also noted strong dissents.

First was the school master. She refused to cooperate with Barnevernet to indict the parents. The ruling noted that „the headmaster … doesn’t think the parents are doing something to physically harm children …” The headmaster was also „opposed to taking the children away when she felt this was not in their best interest. The headmaster was also [one of the girls’] teacher for four years and she lives in the family’s neighborhood. She also knows the family in private.”

To the Bodnariu family’s defense also came the local government, identified in court records as the County Committee. It recommended the children not be separated from their parents, but, instead, counseling be provided, stressing that the parents are sufficiently „resourceful” to care for the children. The County Committee proposed that „the best interests of children are to go back to their home.” Norway’s Child Welfare Act, the Committee pointed out, imposed a high threshold for the children to be taken away from their parents. The proof required a showing that the children had been „significantly harmed” by the actions of the parents. Such evidence was absent, the Committee urged, concluding that „the parents are fully capable to properly exercise their care for the children,” and that „the situation can be correct[ed] by adopting measures at home.”

More backing for the Bodnarius came from the Naustdal Municipality. Its attorney portrayed the family as one where „family values have a central role in their lives,” adding that „this is a great thing to see by whom the children have been cared for.”

Nevertheless, Barnevernet remained unpersuaded, concluding that this is „a serious case of violence against 4 defenceless (sic!) children,” a case about „systematic violence.” Hence, Barnevernet reasoned, placing the children back with their parents „will be a new violation.” It also expressed concern about the massive adverse online publicity the case had already received by November 30, and in a rather bizarre uttering, it stated on the record a fear „that the children may be kidnapped.”

Despite voices of reason in the case, Barnevernet will not listen.

It seems like they never listen to reason.

photo: bplaw.com

 

Religion Was the Issue Before Bodnariu Confiscation

Senator Ben-Oni Ardelean was right when he said that the Bodnariu case contains elements of religious persecution.

The Christian Post reports that the Bodnariu religion may have been a major factor in confiscating the five children. Newly revealed information from case documents shows that the municipality was concerned that the parents were radical Christians.

The Christian Post:

“Documents and minutes of meetings have emerged since the abduction showing that as early as Oct. 13, 2015, more than a month before the children were taken into custody, the officials at Naustdal municipality disapproved of the parenting style of the Bodnariu parents; believing it, after questioning the children, to be based on the Bible,” Costea [president of the Alliance for Romania’s Families] wrote.

“They plainly state that Barnevernet ‘is worried that this is a way of upbringing which is justified by the Bible.’ The authorities pivoted their contemplated removal of the children on the ‘attitude’ the parents ‘have to their own faith and way of upbringing when it comes to religion.'”

“The documents also mention that the children were ‘brought up to respect God and their parents’ values.’ Barnevernet interpreted this as a possible conflict between the children’s assumed inability to live up to their parents’ value expectations and faith and that the parents’ religion could create an ‘inner conflict’ in the children and a stressful family environment,” Costea continued. “Religion is bad for children, Barnevernet’s minutes seem to say, and too much religion is lawful justification for snatching children away from their parents.””

Liberal defenders of Barnevernet keep saying that this case has nothing to do with religion. They keep saying it has nothing to do with human rights.

But the truth will not be mocked for long.

It is important to note that this information has been suppressed in later court hearings. Barnevernet was hoping that this would not come out because it would expose the Norwegian system based on religious harassment, if not persecution.

Evidence of harassment based on religion elevates this case to another level. Freedom of speech, press, religion, assembly etc, are fundamental human rights which cannot be ignored, and they will not be ignored when the BBC will publish their upcoming program on Norway’s Barnevernet.