Delight in Truth follower Mr. Propeller-head (here) brings to our attention how badly the Word of God is twisted by the progressives who try to find biblical support for gay marriage.
In an article on Patheos (here), a large forum on faith discussion, the Rev. Eric Smith out of Vanderbilt Divinity School, an ordained minister serving in the church and a PhD candidate in Biblical Interpretation wrote an article in support of gay marriage.
I will paste here his first point to show how pathetic the argument is:
“There is no normative Biblical marriage. The Bible contains marriages between one man and one woman. But it also contains lots of other kinds of marriages—between soldiers and captives, a woman and her dead husband’s brother (seriously), between rape victims and their rapists, and, of course polygamy. In fact, if there is one major Biblical normative type of marriage, it is polygamy. Because of this, any claims that God’s plan is for marriage to be between one man and one woman will run into serious problems—namely, that it is not supported by the Biblical evidence.”
This is a PhD in Biblical Interpretation!
Here are a few of the comments:
“…the bible says that with God *ALL* things are possible…so if *ALL* things are possible, why is it wrong for two people to love each other and want to be in a monogamous, committed relationship…even if they’re the same sex? Surely not EVERYONE was meant to populate the earth…otherwise, we’d be so overcrowded that we’d have all been done in long ago with not enough resources to support us all.”
“…like Eric says, “the Bible needs interpreting.” The moral-ceremonial distinction is an interpretive lens through which you read Scripture; it does not come from Scripture itself.”
“One of the best articles I’ve seen written yet. Thank you!”
You are not alone if you feel a holy anger under the category “be angry and do not sin” when you read such scriptural deformity.
The progressives will have us believe that God didn’t really mean what He said when He said that “man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.” Gen 2:24
Do you remember who was the first to say “did God really say…?” Today the Rev. Smith is telling us “did God really mean…” for marriage to be only between a man an a woman?
Eerie in likeness to Satan’s approach.
The progressives of His day also challenged Jesus to allow them to break up the family unit in Matthew 19 and Jesus clearly tells them that God did not intend for that to happen, because in the beginning it was not so.
Be shocked how today’s so-called Christian progressives are reinterpreting Scriptures toward their own destruction.
2 Peter 2:1 “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.”
Thanks for shining the light on these progressives. Same old lie in a new package.
Chris,
In all fairness, most of us are progressive in some respects, even about gays… right now the conservative(s) (Christians) fight only the right of marriage, but not the lifestyle…Some 50, 100, 200, etc… same group would fight the very gay lifestyle.
I have a hard question for you and all conservatives (including myself)…why isn’t ok for gays to marry if it’s ok for them to be gay (privately and publicly), have gay bars, gay parades, pay taxes, be employed, etc etc etc… ?! You know what I think the problem is? We lost battle after battle with the gay thing and now we are surprised we are losing the war. I think true conservatives should either make gay lifestyle illegal, period or let them be all the way–it’s like letting the devil come into your house, but then get upset that he wants to sit down on your couch, too. Hello!!!…
But conservatives are just as politically correct (just a bit less than the rest)… they want credit for fighting gay marriage, but do they want the reproach for not fighting the other gay aspects, too?!
You’re killing me Val 🙂
What biblical Christian affirms the gay lifestyle or parades or any if that? We say no to this kind of sin no matter the implications.
That is from a church perspective
From a societal standpoint, we lost the battle. It’s done. We will soon have gay marriage and gay parenting across the board.
But we stand up for biblical truth no matter what Val.
that is my point, we are not standing up… we are not fighting against gay lifestyle as we are against gay marriage…We dont lobby to make gays illegal, just the gay marriage part..
The lifestyle is an infringement between them and God. The marriage and adoption affects the institution of marriage that the rest of society and the church have as a basic unit. It affects all of us.
That is where the difference is.
you’ve got to be kidding me–lifestyles dont affect society??!! that’s a new, progressive conservative thinking 🙂 …the gay marriage and adoption thing began with the gay lifestyle…if we are not willing to cut the root out, then we need to let it grow to full bloom…In many conservative societies, gays were killed/jailed on the spot long ago; back then no conservative believed that it was between them and God to be gay…As I previously said–conservatism progressed, too, and this was my initial point. Am I advocating killing people for their sin? Not at all! This life and this age is the Year of Favor, the Acceptable Year, the Year of Mercy of our Lord…whoever does not take advantage of it, will be damned in the next age, when the Day of Judgement will come upon us…Until then, we need to long-suffer all, even the insufferable. And if we suffer now, we will reign later; but, if we try to take vengeance now, we will lose both now (in June USA will join the other 13 countries) and in the world to come. Hang tight, Chris, very soon we’ll have a chance to be real martyrs–as soon as it becomes legal and they’ll force the Church to not speak against them, accept them in their pulpits, ordain them (or your 501 status will go out the window)…Then we’ll find out who is truly conservative…
Their private life is private, I don’t care about it, other than they are perishing without God and need evangelism. Private sin is private.
The marriage thing is not private, it infringes on a God-ordained and society-accepted institution.
While both are sins, only the latter actively redefines a societal institution.
But again… This discussion is moot… Christians are against gay marriage only on principle because the inertia of this movement is beyond our power to stop it.
totally agree with that one 🙂
I NEED TO MARK THIS IN MY CALENDAR!
VAL JUST AGREED WITH ME 🙂
the last sentence that was… 😉
Interesting…. Can you guys show me any place in the bible or in history when the church or God used the term “private sins”?
John the Baptist could have said …”.hey I don’t care what the king does in his bedroom and with h who”… but he didn’t
I think the church job is to say “thus sayth the Lord” … using the law to convict people of their sin….. and offering the gospel as a way for salvation…
There are no “private sins”
Of course there are no private sins because God sees everything. But to us, humans and believers, there are things that are private. Sinful or not.